After Toyota and Honda released hybrid development plans in China, hybrid power became a hot topic in the industry. In response to this topic, Tencent Automotive exclusively visited Guo Conghui, an academician of the Chinese Academy of Engineering. "I don't think this hybrid is a major choice. I think the main choice is still a small pure electric." He clearly expressed his point of view.
Chinese Academy of Engineering Guo Konghui
Advocate the development of short-distance pure electric vehicles
Tencent Auto: Since Toyota and Honda have been promoting hybrid models recently, from your professional perspective, what do you think of the prospects of hybrid development in China?
Guo Konghui: From the current level of our country's hybrid technology, I expect the hybrid car sales will not be very good, because the cost is still too high, and the hybrid sales will not be very good until the cost has dropped. I have repeatedly advocated in many occasions that it is mainly the development of pure electric vehicles and short-distance vehicles. The speed does not necessarily need to be too high. It is sufficient to use this type of electric vehicle. This type of electric vehicle is now in great demand. We don't have to subsidize it in our country. We can also make money in business production, and sales are very good. The distance to go is relatively short. If you take a taxi, you should also be able to solve the problem by replacing the battery with a short one. Or add another range extender, add a more flexible range extender, and add a generator, which is equivalent to adding a small fuel hybrid, which is pure electric hybrid, so the cost will not be too high, plus A small engine. This is very cheap, now pure electric, I just came back from Foshan, but also to Shandong when the wind, they do more than 30,000 yuan cheaper, slightly more expensive, then five or sixty thousand if even very good, but basically this Some of them are lead-acid batteries. If they are lithium batteries, they will have 100,000 or so.
Hybrid can be done in small quantities but not mainly
Tencent Auto: In that case, the price of electric models may go up.
Guo Konghui: Yes, the price will go up. Lithium batteries now seem to be less practical than lead-acid batteries. Because lead-acid batteries are not recognized in the past, the problem of recycling actually has no technical problem. Now when the wind and Foshan recover the batteries, they run out of lead-acid batteries until they reach the end of their lives. They can return half of their money and spend half their money for a new one. This is a good organization, the problem of pollution can be solved. Therefore, I would like to pursue such a purely electric hybrid. Hybrid power may compete with others. As Japan's hybrid powertrain is doing well, the price is very expensive. However, we have to make the price more expensive and may not be as good as others but competitive. So my argument, we first develop, hybrid power can be done in small quantities, but mainly not rely on it, mainly by the market, the market is willing to buy hybrid power, I agree, now when the market is not willing to buy hybrid power, I do not agree . What I am talking about is not to disapprove of the study, but to disapprove as a major product to the market.
The state should not go to stifle small electric car <br> <br> Tencent car: You still feel like such a relative speed not so fast low-speed electric vehicles, may now be in line with market demand in China?
Guo Konghui: Yes, the slow speed I say is a bit one-sided. For example, if the speed in the city is too low, then it will not keep up with traffic jams and block traffic. In the city, the speed can be increased a bit. This thing raises the speed anyway. The power is here. The energy here is to increase the speed by adding a small transmission, but we don't have to run too much dry food on the total energy. Less energy consumption, the characteristics of electric vehicles is battery push, is to eat more dry food, back as little as possible. Therefore, I am arguing that small electric vehicles with very large market demand are basically lead-acid batteries. The sales are very good, the appearance is also very good, and the safety problem can be solved. Now, basically according to the standard of the car, the car body is developed according to the standard of the car. After the car is bulky, the car body will not have any problems. So, on the whole, the state can earn money without subsidies, and many subsidies for hybrid power are not required, and manufacturers are not willing to do so because they do not make money.
Tencent Motors: The problem that may arise in this area is that this model is currently unable to get approval from the state, or is it an entry list?
Guo Konghui: The state should actively promote and should not adopt a suffocation attitude. The state basically adopts a suffocating attitude. Now Shandong, Foshan, Henan, and Hebei have started spontaneously. They call it the development of the top wind, because this market is very popular and can make money. Auto-growth, even though the country was killed, it still rose.
Government administrations should not go against the market
Tencent Auto: This may have another problem. It may be that the country now has some ideas. If we develop the relatively low-speed electric car now, isn't it all aspects of its technology not our future direction of development, or encouragement? trend?
Guo Konghui: This is not the case. This technical development is continuous. I just said that low speed should not be misunderstood. In fact, we can also engage in high speed. The high-speed mileage is a bit shorter, the speed can be increased, and the transmission can be added as soon as possible. The entire technology is not to say that there is a problem. The speed is high. After adding the gearbox, the technology has not changed much. There is actually not much change. Electronic control, battery, that is, thick lead-acid batteries, lithium batteries can also be used, is expensive. If it is necessary to use such a high price, lithium batteries are not developed to that extent. To that extent, lithium-ion batteries are replaced with lead-acid batteries. The safety and price issues of lithium batteries have not been solved. When the time is right, the market is natural. We will not choose to force people to choose. Those officials always feel that they have the right to coercion. Why bother to force, the market naturally develops. Therefore, some of our government management departments should coordinate with the market and should not be opposed to the market.
Tencent Auto: Should it meet the needs or needs of the market?
Guo Konghui: To rely on the market to guide, do not think that they have the right to withstand the market in the future, this is wrong.
Tencent Automobile: In addition, I would like to ask again. We just mentioned the topic of hybrid power. Do you think that for this hybrid model, should the state give more subsidies?
Guo Konghui: It's good to stop it. It's not a good thing to subsidize, because hybrid energy-saving and environmental protection is almost part of it, not all. Some of the subsidy can only be given less. It belongs to the scope of energy conservation and cannot be said to be new energy.
Tencent Automobile: Because if you compare with foreign countries, like Japan or the United States, the subsidy for hybrid power may be higher than China's.
Guo Konghui: That may be higher, but if pure electric comes out, there may be more subsidies.
Tencent Auto: Yes, for now, from the perspective of foreign trends, in fact, hybrid power may be a technology that can be seen and foreseeable in the near future?
Guo Konghui: This can be, from the situation in China, I do not think this hybrid is a major choice, I think the main choice is still a small pure electric.
Tencent Auto: Thank you, Academician Guo, for our interview.
Chinese Academy of Engineering Guo Konghui
Advocate the development of short-distance pure electric vehicles
Tencent Auto: Since Toyota and Honda have been promoting hybrid models recently, from your professional perspective, what do you think of the prospects of hybrid development in China?
Guo Konghui: From the current level of our country's hybrid technology, I expect the hybrid car sales will not be very good, because the cost is still too high, and the hybrid sales will not be very good until the cost has dropped. I have repeatedly advocated in many occasions that it is mainly the development of pure electric vehicles and short-distance vehicles. The speed does not necessarily need to be too high. It is sufficient to use this type of electric vehicle. This type of electric vehicle is now in great demand. We don't have to subsidize it in our country. We can also make money in business production, and sales are very good. The distance to go is relatively short. If you take a taxi, you should also be able to solve the problem by replacing the battery with a short one. Or add another range extender, add a more flexible range extender, and add a generator, which is equivalent to adding a small fuel hybrid, which is pure electric hybrid, so the cost will not be too high, plus A small engine. This is very cheap, now pure electric, I just came back from Foshan, but also to Shandong when the wind, they do more than 30,000 yuan cheaper, slightly more expensive, then five or sixty thousand if even very good, but basically this Some of them are lead-acid batteries. If they are lithium batteries, they will have 100,000 or so.
Hybrid can be done in small quantities but not mainly
Tencent Auto: In that case, the price of electric models may go up.
Guo Konghui: Yes, the price will go up. Lithium batteries now seem to be less practical than lead-acid batteries. Because lead-acid batteries are not recognized in the past, the problem of recycling actually has no technical problem. Now when the wind and Foshan recover the batteries, they run out of lead-acid batteries until they reach the end of their lives. They can return half of their money and spend half their money for a new one. This is a good organization, the problem of pollution can be solved. Therefore, I would like to pursue such a purely electric hybrid. Hybrid power may compete with others. As Japan's hybrid powertrain is doing well, the price is very expensive. However, we have to make the price more expensive and may not be as good as others but competitive. So my argument, we first develop, hybrid power can be done in small quantities, but mainly not rely on it, mainly by the market, the market is willing to buy hybrid power, I agree, now when the market is not willing to buy hybrid power, I do not agree . What I am talking about is not to disapprove of the study, but to disapprove as a major product to the market.
The state should not go to stifle small electric car <br> <br> Tencent car: You still feel like such a relative speed not so fast low-speed electric vehicles, may now be in line with market demand in China?
Guo Konghui: Yes, the slow speed I say is a bit one-sided. For example, if the speed in the city is too low, then it will not keep up with traffic jams and block traffic. In the city, the speed can be increased a bit. This thing raises the speed anyway. The power is here. The energy here is to increase the speed by adding a small transmission, but we don't have to run too much dry food on the total energy. Less energy consumption, the characteristics of electric vehicles is battery push, is to eat more dry food, back as little as possible. Therefore, I am arguing that small electric vehicles with very large market demand are basically lead-acid batteries. The sales are very good, the appearance is also very good, and the safety problem can be solved. Now, basically according to the standard of the car, the car body is developed according to the standard of the car. After the car is bulky, the car body will not have any problems. So, on the whole, the state can earn money without subsidies, and many subsidies for hybrid power are not required, and manufacturers are not willing to do so because they do not make money.
Tencent Motors: The problem that may arise in this area is that this model is currently unable to get approval from the state, or is it an entry list?
Guo Konghui: The state should actively promote and should not adopt a suffocation attitude. The state basically adopts a suffocating attitude. Now Shandong, Foshan, Henan, and Hebei have started spontaneously. They call it the development of the top wind, because this market is very popular and can make money. Auto-growth, even though the country was killed, it still rose.
Government administrations should not go against the market
Tencent Auto: This may have another problem. It may be that the country now has some ideas. If we develop the relatively low-speed electric car now, isn't it all aspects of its technology not our future direction of development, or encouragement? trend?
Guo Konghui: This is not the case. This technical development is continuous. I just said that low speed should not be misunderstood. In fact, we can also engage in high speed. The high-speed mileage is a bit shorter, the speed can be increased, and the transmission can be added as soon as possible. The entire technology is not to say that there is a problem. The speed is high. After adding the gearbox, the technology has not changed much. There is actually not much change. Electronic control, battery, that is, thick lead-acid batteries, lithium batteries can also be used, is expensive. If it is necessary to use such a high price, lithium batteries are not developed to that extent. To that extent, lithium-ion batteries are replaced with lead-acid batteries. The safety and price issues of lithium batteries have not been solved. When the time is right, the market is natural. We will not choose to force people to choose. Those officials always feel that they have the right to coercion. Why bother to force, the market naturally develops. Therefore, some of our government management departments should coordinate with the market and should not be opposed to the market.
Tencent Auto: Should it meet the needs or needs of the market?
Guo Konghui: To rely on the market to guide, do not think that they have the right to withstand the market in the future, this is wrong.
Tencent Automobile: In addition, I would like to ask again. We just mentioned the topic of hybrid power. Do you think that for this hybrid model, should the state give more subsidies?
Guo Konghui: It's good to stop it. It's not a good thing to subsidize, because hybrid energy-saving and environmental protection is almost part of it, not all. Some of the subsidy can only be given less. It belongs to the scope of energy conservation and cannot be said to be new energy.
Tencent Automobile: Because if you compare with foreign countries, like Japan or the United States, the subsidy for hybrid power may be higher than China's.
Guo Konghui: That may be higher, but if pure electric comes out, there may be more subsidies.
Tencent Auto: Yes, for now, from the perspective of foreign trends, in fact, hybrid power may be a technology that can be seen and foreseeable in the near future?
Guo Konghui: This can be, from the situation in China, I do not think this hybrid is a major choice, I think the main choice is still a small pure electric.
Tencent Auto: Thank you, Academician Guo, for our interview.
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